Andrew Penn, RN, NP, CNS, PMHNP-BC

Activist
DISC Type : Cd

Director of Clinical Nursing Operations at Salma Health

San Francisco, California, United States

Overview

Andrew Penn is the Director of Clinical Nursing Operations at Salma Health and an Adjunct Professor at UCSFs School of Nursing. A board-certified psychiatric nurse practitioner, he is a prominent researcher and international speaker on psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy, specializing in MDMA and psilocybin.

He was a study therapist in the MAPS-sponsored Phase 3 trial of MDMA for PTSD and a Co-Principal Investigator in the Usona-sponsored Phase 2 trial of psilocybin for major depression.

Personality Overview

Logical And Quick

Value Conscious

Perfectionist

They can be nudged to make faster decisions by offering what they value.  They respond well to confident salespeople. They care equally about the product and its potential impact.

Topics They Care About

Psychedelic Therapies
A leading researcher and educator, he was a study therapist for the pivotal Phase 3 MDMA trial and a Co-PI for the Phase 2 psilocybin trial.
Psychiatric Nursing
As a UCSF professor and co-founder of the Organization of Psychedelic and Entheogenic Nurses (OPENurses), he is a leading voice advocating for the role of nursing in therapy.
Mental Health Education
Passionate about teaching, he is a curriculum designer for Psych Congress events, a frequent CME speaker, and enjoys mentoring new and emerging speakers in the mental health field.

Media Appearances

Andrew has no verified media appearances

Work History

10-2025
Director of Clinical Nursing Operations at Salma Health
4-2017
Adjunct Professor at University of California, San Francisco
7-2009 - 4-2017
Assistant Clinical Professor (volunteer series), School of Nursing at University of California, San Francisco
1-2010
Psychiatric Congress Steering Committee Member/ Nurse Planner at HMP Global
1-2006 - 2-2019
Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner III at The Permanente Medical Group

Education

2002 - 2005
MS from University of California, San Francisco
2017 - 2017
Certificate in Psychedelic Therapies and Research from California Institute of Integral Studies

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Insights For Selling To Andrew

During A Call Or A Meeting

DO's

  • Highlight the competitive differentiation of your product
  • Make sure that they have the necessary authority, they could present false stature sometimes
  • Stress on the business value that your product offers

DONT's

  • Avoid long winding pitches, stay objective
  • Don’t try to be an alpha salesperson, give them equal space
  • Do not give up if they are not convinced, try again with a different approach

When Cold Calling

When Writing An Email

While Negotiating & Closing

    The secret to closing fast with Andrew is

  • Confidence in the product plays an important role, followed by powerful testimonials.
  • Will you ever get a clear answer from Andrew

  • They might hesitate a little, but they will say no if they are not convinced.

Insights For Deal Planning

    How fast (or slow) will Andrew move?

  • They are neither the fastest decision makers nor the slowest.
  • Can Andrew take some risk or not?

  • Once they have analyzed the pros and cons, they can take some risks.

You And Andrew

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